Monday, July 28, 2008

Hooters Girls Can't Jump

 image Hooters is an international restaurant food chain that is not famous for its food, it is famous for its waitresses who wear short shorts, and low cut, tight fitting t-shirts.

Of course the owners of Hooters are actually selling  sex, under the cover of functioning as a restaurant.  Really what man actually goes to Hooters to eat because he needs nourishment. He could eat cheaper, and just as unhealthy at McDonalds.  Imagine how much Ronald Mcdonald could increase sales if he would only consent to a breast enhancement surgery. Oh but wait, tits are only valued when they appear on women right??? Silly me, sexual objectification for profit is something men do to women what was I thinking.

According to CTV, Hooters employees in Dartmouth, N.S. engage in outdoor calisthenics prior to the commencement of their shifts. This must just be great for morale, standing on the sidewalk together jumping up and down to make your tits bounce to attract customers.  Can you imagine the female bonding this must cause. This marketing ploy has been so successful that a man drove directly into the back of a bus because he was busy watching the women and not the road. Theresa Brien, Halifax Regional Police spokesperson is reported to have said to CTV, "We attended Hooters and we had asked them to move their staff away from the roadway to another parking lot where they wouldn't be distracting drivers."

In a confirmation of his male right to exploit for profit the female form, Scott Samways responded, "I can understand safety but we're not doing anything wrong. It's a huge marketing ploy, pretty women can sell pretty much anything they want." This statement was further backed up by their in house colluder waitress Amy Randell, "I think we should be out here promoting ourselves. It gets people in the restaurant and a lot of people enjoy it." 

Right, you're shaking your tits to promote yourself...okay, self promotion is when you keep the entirety of the profits generated from your tits labour. The minute the profit goes to a pimp company you are being exploited. The value of your labour is not what the pimp lets you keep,  company pays you, but the profit minus all expenses.  If you are going to be in the business of profiting from your body, you should be realistic, and honest about the work that you do. 

The exercise routine encouraged by Hooters gave the community the perfect opportunity to discuss female sexual objectification, but of course "safety" was the issue that was focused on.  It would seem to me that if men would simply respect the bodies of women in the first place, there would not be an issue of safety. Daily when women walk down the street we receive cat calls and rude stares from men who feel that they have the right to dehumanize us for their pleasure. I recently wrote about an experience I had wherein a man stared at my breasts for five minutes in the presence of my children. My experience is not unique by any stretch of the imagination and the traffic incidents around Hooters reifies what has become patently obvious to most women...men see us as consumable sex objects.  As much as I disagree with what the waitress are doing, they should be able to jump up and down to their hearts content without being forced inside. It is the male drivers who do not pay attention to the road that need to dealt with. We need to stop policing women because men have difficulty with self control. The boys will be boys alleviates men of their responsibility to be respectful human beings, and  it makes women vulnerable to attack.

 


29 comments:

Larry Geater said...

Since the lions share of a servers income comes from tips which the establishment does not get to take a cut of the pimp anology is prety weak.

Chris said...

Hooters is terrible...even some of the girls are horrid! ROFL!!!

The Fabulous Kitty Glendower said...

Geater said...
Since the lions share of a servers income comes from tips which the establishment does not get to take a cut of the pimp anology is prety weak.



The lion’s share of the servers income comes from tips is true, however, the lion’s share of what the customer pays goes to the restaurant. The menu prices are fixed, non-negotiable. Therefore, the pimp analogy is right on par. The tips are negotiable, as in not required, the menu prices are not negotiable. A customer (male) can decide not to pay the waitress but cannot decide not to pay the restaurant. The restaurant wins at the expense of the server.

Renee said...

@Larry clearly someone has never read Marx

Meadester said...

Wanting to see Ronald McDonald with large, enhanced breasts? That's quite a kinky fantasy you have, Renee. Seriously, if enough women are willing to spend money at a restaurant that has sexy men on display the way Hooters has sexy women, it will happen (probably focused on penises and testicles, since I think it is a minority of women, or even gay men, who prefer men with large feminine breasts).

Already there are some venues for women seeking out male "sex objects" such as Playgirl magazine and Chippendales. These are not as popular as their female-for male counterparts but they do exist. You and your feminist sisters are free to patronize them all you want. If that's what enjoy go for it. If that's not what you enjoy, save your money for other things but don't complain that you don't have the opportunity.

The owners of the restaurant have risked a lot of money paying for the building, the food, etc. so they deserve a chance to earn a return on their investments. They pay the waitresses a wage plus allow them to earn unlimited tips, overall, not a bad deal. There is certainly no coercion. Now, I'm all in favor of legalizing prostitution and letting these women go into business for themselves, but as things currently stand, Hooters is probably one of the safest, most convenient ways for women to cash in on their good looks.

As for reading Marx, I can't speak for Larry, but I've read some excerpts of Das Kapital. I also read excerpts of Mein Kampf. I didn't have to read either of these very far to get their overall concepts. The ranting and raving of wannabe dictators gets repetitive after a while.

Larry Geater said...

I have read Marx. I just do not agree with him.

Ashley said...

One fun thing about many chain restaurants is the concept of "tip share." You are required to pay a certain percentage of your tickets, notice not your tips, to pay the rest of the help. So, for instance if I worked for a dinner shift at a restaurant and sold $500 worth of food and there was a 3% tipshare, I'd have to pay the restaurant $15. Say I made the standard 15% in tips, that's $75, meaning I'd have to pay 20% of my income that night back to the restaurant.

I don't think the pimping analogy is far off.

Meadester said...

@Ashley, The pimping analogy would work if the managers or owners were skimming; I don't doubt that some do but I think that's illegal, and they would face stiff penalties if reported. In general my understanding is that the tip share is generally done to spread tips when the labor is shared by several tippable employees (waitress/waiter, bartender, and busperson, for example). I don't know what Hooters' policy on tip sharing is, but I doubt that it is worse than the typical chain restaurant that doesn't trade in sex appeal.

Danny said...

The lion’s share of the servers income comes from tips is true, however, the lion’s share of what the customer pays goes to the restaurant. The menu prices are fixed, non-negotiable. Therefore, the pimp analogy is right on par. The tips are negotiable, as in not required, the menu prices are not negotiable. A customer (male) can decide not to pay the waitress but cannot decide not to pay the restaurant. The restaurant wins at the expense of the server.

Based on that then I suppose all servers, grocery store baggers, bar tenders, and anyone that takes tips fall under the pimp analogy.

Renee said...

@Meadster The ranting and raving of wannabe dictators gets repetitive after a while. That is a complete display of ignorance. Marx is considered on of the greatest thinkers by economist and and sociologist of all time but you go ahead and dismiss what you have not read.

Renee said...

The large picture that people are missing is the concept of the value of the labor of the waitresses. The value of their labor is not what the company pays them but the profit minus expenses. The owner of these businesses contribute nothing but capitol however without labor all of the capitol in the world is meaningless. Keep in mind as well that capitol is a social construction. Money has no value other than that which we confer it with.

Meadester said...

@Renee, I told you I've read excerpts of Marx. If I have time to waste some time, maybe I will read more. But just because I haven't read Marx cover to cover doesn't mean I don't know what he was all about. I haven't read Hitler cover to cover either, but I feel comfortable dismissing his theories based on what I do know.

I agree capital needs labor, but labor also needs capital (i.e. raw materials, physical space, tools) to produce most of the goods and services that we need. This capital can be owned by individuals (individually or through a corporation who paid for it with money earned by their own labor), or it can be owned by a government that took it by force. Usually private ownership provides a higher standard of living for the vast majority of people. But with government ownership, the only people enriched are high ranking government officials who are able to keep their fortunes hidden from public view. Thus people who are jealous of anyone who has more than them feel better under a system of public ownership, despite being worse off materially.

elle said...

Renee, I was wondering where all the guys who are here to challenge the illogical thinking of the poor widdle woman came from, then I realized you were attacking the sacredness of teh Hooters (or, I suppose, the sacredness of having "hooters" ever visible for male approval and entertainment).

Larry Geater said...

@Elle

All of the men comenting on this thread coment more or less regularly on this blog. Your sexist attack is misplaced.

Renee said...

@elle no I support the right of women to work at places like Hooters but I believe that they should be honest about exactly what they are doing. They are exploited labor, very much like everyone else and saying that they are promoting themselves is false.

@Meadster...no to understand something you need to immerse yourself in it. Your continual reference to Hitler shows that you have no idea about Marxist theory. Please explain to me why labor needs capitol.

Larry Geater said...

Please explain to me why labor needs capitol.

How do you make something without raw materials?

elle said...

@Larry I've seen Meadester's comments and yours on a few occasions. Nothing about them would make me change what I said.

@Renee I'm sorry, I don't disagree with what you're saying, so my comment must've been unclear.

Renee said...

@Larry capitol does not provide the raw material

Larry Geater said...

Renee

Try to buy a 2x4 without capital, or up stream form that build a saw mill to make a 2x4. If we did not have banking then we would have a cash economy which is still capitalistic in nature unless we went back to a barter economy which would prove wholy inadequate to providing modern infrastructure.

The freemarket extreemist miss the fact that without socialist institutions capitalism is a soul crushing system that colapses under its inequalities. Comunists miss that labor must be rewarded to provide the motivation for labor and as a way to sort failed methods from the successfull ones. Pure economys fail. Pure capitalism gets you a third world economy with hordes of starving poor. Command economies fail under the burden of ineficinecy and give you hordes of starving poor. Only socialist democracies like them member states of the EU, the US nd Canada succede in providing a realatively stable economy. In the US in the past couple of decades we have swung the balance of our economy to far to the side of free markets and are just now begining to pay the price for that failure.

Larry Geater said...

Elle

I've seen Meadester's comments and yours on a few occasions. Nothing about them would make me change what I said.

If you have seen us ccomment here before then you know that we are not commenting only on threads that are about breasts, but don't let logical inconsistency stop you from insulting me or lumping me in with others just because we both cary our gonads on the outside.

Renee said...

@Larry
Try to buy a 2x4 without capital, or up stream form that build a saw mill to make a 2x4. If we did not have banking then we would have a cash economy which is still capitalistic in nature unless we went back to a barter economy which would prove wholly inadequate to providing modern infrastructure.

Exactly the point..we have invented a value for a 2X4 it is not naturally occurring in the way that labor is. Money is nothing but a social construction and as with all social construction should be and will be subject to change. Considering that the current infrastructure is killing this earth we must begin to change the way that we live, as such a return to a subsistence economy would ensure a better quality of life for all and would be far more economically sound.

Communists miss that labor must be rewarded to provide the motivation for labor and as a way to sort failed methods from the successful ones.
What makes you believe that there is no reward under a communist system. Do you not think that having shelter, food and clothing is a reward for labor? The difference is that you would not see the monopolization of wealth the way that occurs in a capitalistic government.

Pure economys fail.
Really can you point to one that has failed? Think carefully now.

Only socialist democracies like them member states of the EU, the US nd Canada succeed in providing a relatively stable economy
Stability does not necessarily mean that it benefits the majority of the citizenry.

Larry Geater said...

In a subcistence economy I would be dead. I need .225 mg of synthroid q day to live. We are without a doubt going to have to change the way we live but going back to susistence farming or a huntergater economy would require a great dying that would eliminate ninty five percent of the population of the world or more. It would mean a return to tribalism and the end to even the hope of achieving cosmopolitan equality between the raqces and genders. Those who do not embrace the fruits of technology live in grass huts and die young.

And what makes you thnk that the party leaders in a communist country do not have a monopoly on welth?

The happiest people on earth are the Danes and they have a socialist democracy and a mixed economy. We do not have to do thought experiments about what makes for a happy life we just have to compare the outcomes of the various forms of government arround the world and the happiest outcomes are socialist democracies by far.

Larry Geater said...

huntergater - hunter-gatherer

beanphed said...

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0414061hooters1.html

Basically you had a trainer encouraging these women to offer sexual services to customers as a way to earn extra money.

Hooters is definitely a pimp. Some stores/area's are worse then others.

erin0444 said...

All I know is that my drunk-and often dumb when drunk- husband gets charged a mandatory 15% gratuity because he only goes with a large group of boys from work, and then is so dumb drunk as to over tip his trashy waitress on top of the 15%. So you know guys, we may be able to get past the fact that you go to hooters, but it lowers our opinions of you everytime. I have been friends with many a hooters girl when i was in college, and all will tell you that they found the majority of their male patrons to be "pathetic losers who had to pay a girl to flirt with them, or atleast were willing to pay a girl to flirt with them" These girls find you a minor irritation on the way to your wallets. So next time youre cracking flirtatious jokes with your local hooters girl, remember, shes laughing at you not with you.

Jack said...

For some reason he doesn't look so hot with boobs... =[

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