Monday, August 11, 2008

Jamie Foxx Swims With A Swastika

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H/t Black Political Thought 

Yeah your eyes are not deceiving you, that is Jamie Foxx holding a surf board with the swastika on it.  Even though his face is turned away from it, I find it hard to believe that he was unaware of what was on his board.  This is simply not acceptable.  Jamie I am disappointed in you.  The swastika is a symbol that has been perverted by the Nazis and is globally recognized as a hate symbol. If someone were to have an image of a black man hanging from a noose you would loose your ever loving mind. If you expect decency towards blacks you need to be decent towards other groups.  I won't go into the obvious fact that 6 million people died in the holocaust, I won't go into the fact that those that survived were traumatized for life, and I certainly won't go into the fact that this was a hate based genocide because you should know all of that.  The aforementioned are all of the reasons that it will never again be okay to display the swastika, it stands for hatred of the worst kind Jamie and there is no excusing that.

28 comments:

nwman0 said...

I believe the way that the swastika is pointing is a sign for peace.

nia said...

Hmmm. It also seems to be next to a Star of David, which is interesting.

Rudy said...

I don't think it's a reference to Nazi either, but rather the Buddhist swastika. That's why he has it next to the Jewish star of David.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

nia said...

Looking at it closer, it seems to have a whole of symbolism and art imagery going on! It's probably a rented surfboard and not actually his own.

outcrazyophelia said...

It does appear to have a Buddhist referrent. I don't really believe it's similar to the image of a man being lynched simply because as you stated--it was a symbol for luck and peace that was perverted. But, it still means those things to the religions that include it as part of their symbolism. Plenty of hate groups hide behind crosses--yet no one instructs Christianity to abandon the crucifix. I think that because the swastika is unfamiliar to most westerners, it's easier to see it only as a Nazi symbol and as something that can be easily discarded. But is that really fair to the religions that had it first?

Renee said...

Whether or not he owns the surf board don't tell me that he used it without noticing the swastika on it. If someone handed me something like that I would immediately hand it back. I further find the placement of the swastika next to the Star of David even more problematic. It does not scream peace and understanding to me.

Renee said...

@crazyophelia
Plenty of hate groups hide behind crosses--yet no one instructs Christianity to abandon the crucifix. I think that because the swastika is unfamiliar to most westerners, it's easier to see it only as a Nazi symbol and as something that can be easily discarded.

except that Foxx is not a Buddhist and he is not using the symbol in any way that could be remotely considered religious. Sorry no benefit of the doubt from me.

Luci-Kali said...

Well, I don't know. The question is "where was he"?

It's not globally known as a symbol of hate. It's found within Buddhism as the manji (Japanese), as "omote" or "ura," depending on the direction it is. On that board, it's facing right, so it would be marked as "ura."

Many of my Buddhist art pieces (both ancient replicas, as well as contemporary pieces) have swastikas on them. From wikipedia (which is actually a pretty good description): "represents Dharma, universal harmony, and the balance of opposites. When facing left, it is the omote (front) manji, representing love and mercy. Facing right, it represents strength and intelligence, and is called the ura (rear) manji. Balanced manji are often found at the beginning and end of Buddhist scriptures (outside India)."

It's also used sometimes to label food as suitable for strict vegetarians.

nia said...

Well, I guess it may be a case of the message getting lost in the art. Probably only the person who drew the images on the surfboard will know what they were trying to say here.

But the swastika is a symbol actually dating back to ancient Egypt that a dominant culture (Europeans)took and perverted into something horrific. As poster #5 pointed out, is that fair to the other religions that had it first?

jessilikewhoa said...

except that Foxx is not a Buddhist and he is not using the symbol in any way that could be remotely considered religious. Sorry no benefit of the doubt from me.

thank you renee, i agree 1000%

luckily i wasn't ever a huge jaime foxx fan, so i dont have to have deep inner monologues about being upset with him. not like when i found out about the complicated relationship between public enemy and anti-semitism. im still struggling with that one.

dani c said...

Actually, there's a couple religious/racist drawings on that board. Yes, you have the swatstika right next to the star of David but also a "British American Flag". To most southerners that's considered to be quite racist. A defamation against African Americans big time..

Luci-Kali said...

In regards to the "British American Flag," the Continental/Grand Union/Cambridge Flag was the flag of the US in 1775, and then after the US won independence until 1777. It's a first that I've heard of about it being offense/racist, and I heavily doubt my British-American friend hangs it in his room for anything other than a dual loyalty to both Great Britain and the US.

Danny said...

Its amazing how people are quick to tell him what the symbol on HIS board means... As other people have said that symbol has not not always been one of hate.

zobabe73 said...

This is an interesting point. I live in Bali, where the local Hindu tradition makes the swastika (facing the correct, Hindu way) very prevalent in art and architecture.
Often, when my friends from America visit, they are shocked to see young men wearing swastika T-shirts, many people wearing swastika jewelry, the swastika symbol displayed proudly over many doorways and featured prominently and often in intricately carved doors and window frames. There is even a hotel called "The Swastika."
One friend went so far as to say that, in her opinion, the Balinese should drop the swastika from use in local art, as it is seen as so offensive in the west. Yet, somehow, I doubt that the majority of Balinese are going to take that suggestion very seriously.

zobabe73 said...

Again, someone asked "Where is he?" Expressing righteous indignation whenever you see a swastika in Bali could get tiresome.

Kara said...

This is a big case of "where was he," IMHO. The swastika has been perverted by white supremacists in western cultures, but in non-western cultures, it's not considered a symbol of hatred. It has a long history in Buddhism. I don't think we can jump to conclusions unless we actually know all of the story behind the picture. But I guess a picture's worth a thousand words.

Renee said...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/film/article1543813.ece
SO much for the debate on Western perversion of the symbol. Jamie was in Hawaii..

Scott said...

Take all the symbols on the surf board and put them together and you see a pattern.

1. Star - It is a symbol of infinity and a phase of a life of the human soul ...
2. Svastika - Symbol of time running ( Symbol of sun )...
3. Peace sign - Symbol of love and unities with the nature ( Make love, not war )...
4. Heart - Love ...
5. Smile - Good mood...
6. Flover - Last stage of a life
7. Triangles in triangle - Symbolize synthesis of the union of contrasts.

The svastika (swastika in the photo) Turn the board the way it is supposed to be viewed and its not a swastika.

All these symbols together in one place and you get a different picture. Its about peace, understanding and spirituality.

Birdseed said...

Eeeh, let him be a bit Punk Rock if he wants to - he's just trying to shock. I'm more interested in what's written below the line of symbols actually - is that a reference to the John Cameron Mitchell movie about a transexual?

Ebony Intuition said...

@crazyophelia
Plenty of hate groups hide behind crosses--yet no one instructs Christianity to abandon the crucifix. I think that because the swastika is unfamiliar to most westerners, it's easier to see it only as a Nazi symbol and as something that can be easily discarded.


That is 100% true and sadly people still flock to these hidden hate groups thinking they provide the true answer in life...The crucifix and swastika are one in the same just turned on a degree to create the bent x.

This is going to sound weird but it doesn't bother me because the Christian cross is the exact same thing. Christianity played its major role in the african slave but no on gets mad when a Christian cross is shown or worn.

@ Scott I see what you see when I turn my head the other way and view the symbols.

Queers United said...

thats weird, but it does have a david star on it as well so maybe its the peaceful sign that the hindus used?

Z.Equiano said...

How do we know he knew what was under that dirty raggedy board? Do you think we really loves a Nazi and also, ww2 made the symbol "hate". It didn't always mean this.
Why would he try to tarnish his career?

Why are you mad about Jamie Foxx? He is a standup guy and a good guy seems to me.

More research on this Pic needs to be done...
Ty for the post.

GrayScale said...

It is a sad day when hate is allowed to soil art and expression. In my personal opinion I think both judgment and negative recognition of this type should be reserved for when a hateful comment, idea, or action is actually made or endorsed. As previously mentioned the swastika outdated the Nazis party as does it's meaning and purpose. Yes, as a celebrity (or anyone steering clear of conflict) it would just be easier to simply avoid adorning images that have attracted negative/hateful associations, but it shouldn't be required. Asking people to avoid using religious symbols or artistic designs because they are associated with, but not created by or for, hateful murderous campaigns or groups like the Nazis party, is actually quite unfair. Unless otherwise stated or inferred such images should be taken for face value, exactly what they mean not what they are associated with. Making a decision to be PC and avoid use of historically stained imagery is a personal choice that should not be pushed or forced on others. There is a difference between not being PC and being a bigot. For others to criticize a person for having a symbol of peace/love sketched on their body board seems a bit fascist to me.

Also comparing a swastika to a symbol of a black person being burned or lynched is quite ludicrous. If such a symbol existed before slavery, hundreds of years before, in various religions and cultures, then maybe, just maybe, it might actually be somewhat similar.

Also in post #7, Renee said... except that Foxx is not a Buddhist and he is not using the symbol in any way that could be remotely considered religious. Sorry no benefit of the doubt from me.

Everyone with a yin and yang tattoo isn’t expected to believe in Taiji or Taoism. Foxx also isn’t a member of the Third Reich and he’s not using the symbol in any way that could be remotely considered anti-Semitist, logically.

Oh and to post #19. The movie is called Hedwig and the Angry Inch.

Joy said...

That's the flag of Hawaii, where this pic was taken. That would also explain the Buddhist swastika. splashnewsonline.celebuzz.com/2008/08/jamie-foxx-boogie-boards-in-ha.html

Danielle said...

The swastika symbol was stolen by the Nazis due to the Aryan influence on the Indian culture. This appears to be a Hindu symbol considering all the neighboring symbols.

narkopuppy said...

I doubt Foxx means anything by having a swastika on his stuff...you know, what with him being BLACK and all. Seeing that Nazism is a white thing, I wouldn't read much into it.

Renee said...

Just because someone is black does not mean that they are not Anti-Semitic.

AR said...

Although "the Holocaust" as used by scholars refers specifically to Nazi genocide of the Jews, when referring to Nazi persecution in general, "6 million Jews" is a lie by omission: the total casualties due to the concentration camp system is between 9 and 11 million, and if one includes the often forgotten, as they were forgotten here, systematic murders of Soviet civilians, the total death toll of Nazi genocide reaches 17 million.

Personally, I think we should reclaim the symbol instead of banishing it from Western use, but if you go by how many people were murdered under it, it's actually quite a bit worse than you're making it out to be.